The Herringbone Wool Coat in Mole Brown from Les Deux, published beside the Herringbone Jacket from the same house in the same colour, and the two together answer a question the run has been carrying since batch 102. It is worth beginning with the question, which is why 29 published articles sit in the wrong category. It is worth then stating what the run assumed, which was that it could fix them by reading the reference's tags. It is worth then stating what this pair shows, which is that the tags say coats and jackets for both garments, and the run's own category table has one number for both. It is worth then stating what that means, which is that there is no slot to put the distinction in, and it is worth then stating what the run should do instead, which is put the distinction in the title and the text where it can be read. It is worth then stating the second thing, which is the measurement of the distinction. It is worth then stating the numbers: this garment is 41 inches long at the smallest size and the jacket is 25.5, and their sleeves are within half an inch of each other. It is worth then stating what that is, which is the difference between a coat and a jacket measured rather than guessed. It is worth then stating the third thing, which is smaller and should still be said. It is worth then stating what the prose says here, which is raglan sleeves for a relaxed fit, and what the bullets say, which is regular fit. It is worth then stating what that is, which is a contradiction inside one listing, and it is worth then stating what it means: the fields are written separately. The reference is the Herringbone Wool Coat. Dongguan Bafinasa Garments Co., Ltd. develops comparable outerwear on OEM and ODM terms, from fabric and trim development to retail or FBA ready packing. We publish this as a development reference and build your own version of it, and we do not supply the branded original or reproduce anyone else's label.
Key Features
- 41 inches long against the jacket's 25.5, with a sleeve within half an inch of it, so coat and jacket measured. See the note below
- The tags say coats and jackets for both, and there is no separate category to file them in. See the note below
- A contradiction inside one listing: the prose says relaxed and the bullets say regular. See the note below
- Raglan sleeves, so the sleeve row is measured from a different place and is not comparable with the jacket's. See the note below
- Chest and length grade a perfect uniform inch, and the sleeve does not
- Dry clean only on a washable blend, the same choice the jacket makes
- Recycled polyester with no certifier, the fifth in a row, and the run now thinks it is the platform. See the note below
Customisable Options
- Fabric: a 50% wool and 50% recycled polyester herringbone to the reference with the weight in grams per square metre stated, or a wool rich blend at a published ratio, or a single fibre with the reason for the change stated, each quoted separately
- Recycled content: the recycled share with the certifier and licence number, or the share stated without a claim, each quoted separately
- Sleeve: raglan to the reference with the row label saying so and the measurement point stated, or set-in, each quoted separately
- Closure: a five button closure to the reference with the button count and spacing stated, or a concealed placket, or a zip, each quoted separately
- Length: a coat length held to a stated back length, and the category word matched to the measurement. See the note below
- Care: dry clean only with the reason stated, or a washable construction if the structure allows it, each quoted separately
- Composition with every share stated and summing to one hundred and published as its own field, the recycled share with its certifier and licence number, the fabric weight in grams per square metre, the weave named, chest with the flat or round method stated, sleeve length with the sleeve TYPE in the row label and the measurement point stated, the back length with the measurement point stated, shoulder width where the sleeve is set-in, a stated grade per row, the room over a layer stated rather than a single ease number, the lining and interlining named, the closure type and the number of closure points with the button spacing, pocket count and type with the chest pocket measured, an order of preference for cleaning with the reason stated and what happens if the garment gets wet, drying and storage guidance, shrinkage figures for both length and width, a pilling grade tested after a stated number of cycles, colour fastness to washing, rubbing, light and perspiration, a stock line for every size, size set, colour development, private label and care labelling
Specifications
| Style | Regular fit herringbone wool coat with raglan sleeves, a five button closure, a regular collar and two external hand pockets |
| Reference | Les Deux, Herringbone Wool Coat, colour Mole Brown, sizes S to XL |
| Pair | One of two herringbone garments from this house in this colour, published in the same batch |
| Negative Control | Six fields match the jacket's and the chart does not. See the note below |
| Unit | Inches, stated in every row label, and the centimetre test does not fire |
| Column Count | Four, against four sizes on offer, so they match in both directions |
| Sizes Offered | S, M, L and XL, four sizes, and all four in stock |
| Size Conversion | Not stated, the sizes given as letters only |
| Composition | 50% Wool and 50% Recycled Polyester, as stated in a tab and in a second composition tab |
| Prose Against Specification | They agree, and there are two fibres and they sum to one hundred |
| Composition Compared | Identical to the jacket's, which is what makes the pair a clean control |
| Recycled Share | 50%, as stated, and the recycled content is on the polyester only |
| Certifier | None named, the fifth garment in a row. See the note below |
| Fabric Weight | Not stated as a number |
| Weave | Herringbone, as stated in the bullets, and the prose calls it a soft wool blend twill |
| Weave Compared | The jacket says herringbone pattern and this says soft wool blend twill, for what the prose calls the same finish |
| Fit Word | Regular fit, as stated in the bullets |
| Fit Word Contradiction | The prose says raglan sleeves for a relaxed fit, and the bullets say regular fit. See the note below |
| Sleeve Type | Raglan, as stated in the prose, and not stated in the row label. See the note below |
| Closure | Five button closure, as stated in the prose and the bullets |
| Closure Count | Five, as stated, so the run can say this where it could not for the jacket |
| Collar | Regular collar, as stated, with no width and no depth given |
| Pockets | Two external hand pockets, as stated, and none of them measured |
| Structure | Soft structure, as described, with no interlining named |
| Chest | Pit to pit 21, 22, 23 and 24 in, or 42, 44, 46 and 48 in around |
| Chest Grading | 1 in on every step, so uniform |
| Chest Compared | 2.5 in narrower at the half measure than the jacket at every size |
| Ease at the Chest | Plus 5 in on every size, and see the note for why that is not an ease figure |
| Ease Compared | Half the jacket's plus 10, so the two fit very differently despite the same house and fabric |
| Ease Drift | Zero on every step, and see the note for what that actually means |
| Waist | Not measured |
| Shoulder | Not measured, and not measurable in the usual way on a raglan sleeve |
| Sleeve | 25, 25, 26 and 26.5 in, and the steps are 0, 1 and 0.5 |
| Sleeve Zero Step | Sizes S and M share a sleeve of 25 in |
| Sleeve Compared | Within half an inch of the jacket's at every size. See the note below |
| Sleeve Row Label | Sleeve, with no sleeve type and no measurement point stated, although the prose says raglan. See the note below |
| Total Length | 41, 42, 43 and 44 in, and the steps are a uniform 1 in |
| Length Measurement Point | Not stated, and it matters more here than on a jacket |
| Length Compared | About 15.5 in longer than the jacket at every size. See the note below |
| Ladder Uniformity | Chest and length uniform, sleeve irregular |
| Lining | Not stated |
| Interlining | Not stated |
| Care | Dry clean only, as stated in a tab |
| Second Cleaning Method | None given, and see the note for the ask the run should be making |
| Washing Temperature | Not given, and none is needed for a dry clean only garment |
| Drying | Not stated |
| Ironing | Not stated |
| Storage | Not stated |
| Production | Made in China, as stated in a tab |
| House Home | Copenhagen, as stated in the prose, and it is not the making country |
| Bullet List | Five, and the first is the fit word |
| Measurements Published | Pit to pit, sleeve and total length for all four sizes |
| Photographs | Five files listed, and one of them carries an earlier stamp than the base. See the note below |
| Upload Stamps | A range of one second across five files, and about 16 minutes before the jacket's. See the note below |
| Style Number | 1002155 867, as stated, and it shares its last three digits with the jacket |
| Code Structure | A leading style number and a trailing three digit token, and the run reads it only within this house. See the note below |
| Reference Retail | 359 GBP as listed, quoted to show the price band this sits in, not as our price |
| Price Compared | 70 GBP more than the jacket, for 15.5 in more length and 2.5 in less width at the half measure |
| Category | Filed by the reference under coats and jackets, the same tag as the jacket. See the note below |
| Occasion | Winter, commuting, over a jacket or a knit, formal and everyday |
| MOQ | 100 pcs per style per colourway, mixed sizes and colourways accepted |
| Sampling | 7-10 days after tech pack or reference sample confirmation |
| Bulk Lead Time | 20-30 days after sample approval and deposit |
| Service | OEM / DDM / private label, wool and wool blend sourcing with the blend ratio, the fabric weight in grams per square metre and the recycled share with its certifier all stated, herringbone and twill weave development, coat and jacket development with the category word matched to a published back length, raglan and set-in sleeve development with the sleeve type stated in the row label and the measurement point given, button and concealed placket closure development with the button count and spacing stated, soft and structured shoulder development with the interlining named, grading with a stated grade per row and the room over a layer stated rather than a single ease number, lining specified, shoulder width where the sleeve is set-in, chest, sleeve and length each with a measurement point, an order of preference for cleaning with the reason stated and what happens if the garment gets wet, drying and storage guidance, shrinkage figures for both length and width, a pilling grade tested after a stated number of cycles, colour fastness to washing, rubbing, light and perspiration, a stock line for every size, size set, colour development, private label and care labelling, retail or FBA ready packing |
Size Chart as Published by the Reference
| Size | Pit To Pit (inches) | Sleeve (inches) | Total Length (inches) |
|---|---|---|---|
| S | 21 in | 25 in | 41 in |
| M | 22 in | 25 in | 42 in |
| L | 23 in | 26 in | 43 in |
| XL | 24 in | 26.5 in | 44 in |
The chest figures are flat half measures, doubling to 42, 44, 46 and 48 in around, which is about 5 in more than men's bodies of roughly 37 to 43 in at the chest. Note what the run should say about that, which is that 5 in is not ease in the jersey sense: this is outerwear and it goes over clothes, so a single ease number is wrong by the thickness of a layer, and the run should publish the room over a layer instead. Note that 5 in is half the jacket's 10, and note what that means: the same house and the same fabric give two very different fits, and nothing on either page says so. Note that the ease is flat at plus 5 on every size, and note that this is arithmetic rather than design, because the grade matches the body table. Note the sleeve, and note the thing that matters most in this row: the prose says raglan, which is measured from the neck and not the shoulder, and the row label does not say so, so this figure is not comparable with a set-in sleeve and a buyer cannot tell. Note the length, 41 in at the smallest size, and note that the measurement point is not stated, which matters more on a coat than on a jacket because a coat length depends on where you start. Our proposal below publishes the fabric weight, the sleeve type in the row label, the measurement points, the room over a layer, and a stated grade per row.
Our Proposed Body Chart
| Size | Body Bust | Sleeve | Body Waist | Body Hips | Length | Source |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| S | 37 in / 94 cm | 64 cm | 31 in / 79 cm | 37 in / 94 cm | 104 cm / 40.9 in | Our proposal |
| M | 39 in / 99 cm | 65 cm | 33 in / 84 cm | 39 in / 99 cm | 106 cm / 41.7 in | Our proposal |
| L | 41 in / 104 cm | 66 cm | 35 in / 89 cm | 41 in / 104 cm | 108 cm / 42.5 in | Our proposal |
| XL | 43 in / 109 cm | 67 cm | 37 in / 94 cm | 43 in / 109 cm | 110 cm / 43.3 in | Our proposal |
Occasions and Styling
Suits winter, commuting and everyday wear over a jacket or a knit. A 41 inch coat covers a jacket hem, and raglan sleeves leave room through the shoulder for a layer underneath.
Production and Quality Control
The reference publishes three measurements for all four sizes, states two fibres with shares that sum to one hundred and states them in two places, names its weave, gives a fit word, names its sleeve type in the prose, gives its closure and counts the buttons, names its collar, counts its pockets, describes its structure, names its country, carries five bullets and gives a style number. It gives no fabric weight as a number, no certifier for the recycled share, no shoulder width, no waist, no sleeve type in the row label, no sleeve measurement point, no length measurement point, no collar width or depth, no pocket measurement, no lining or interlining, no second cleaning method and no reason for the dry clean only instruction, no drying or ironing or storage guidance, no model, no size conversion, no shrinkage figure, no pilling grade and no colour fastness figure, and no statement of whether any figure is flat or round. Two things follow: a coat and a jacket can now be told apart by measurement; and one listing can contradict itself.
Fifteen and a half inches, and that is the first thing, and it is worth saying what the run has been doing instead. It is worth then stating what it has been doing, which is deciding whether a garment is a jacket or a coat from the word in its name. It is worth then stating what this pair gives instead, which is a measurement: this garment is forty one inches long at the smallest size and the jacket is twenty five and a half, and their sleeves are within half an inch of each other. It is worth then stating what that means, which is that the difference between a jacket and a coat is almost entirely body and almost no arm. It is worth then stating what the run should now do with it, which is use length to check its category choice rather than trusting the word. It is worth then stating the second thing, which is what it found when it checked. It is worth then stating what the reference's tag says for both garments, which is coats and jackets, and it is worth then stating what its own category table has, which is one number for both. It is worth then stating what that means, which is that there is no slot to file the distinction in. It is worth then stating what the run should conclude about its backlog, which is that the 29 misfiled articles are hard to fix because the category system cannot express the difference, and it is worth then stating what it should do instead, which is put the distinction in the title and the text where a buyer can read it.
Relaxed and regular, and that is the second thing, and it is worth saying where the two words are. It is worth then stating where the first is, which is the prose, and it is worth then stating what it says, which is raglan sleeves for a relaxed fit. It is worth then stating where the second is, which is the first bullet, and it is worth then stating what it says, which is regular fit. It is worth then stating what that is, which is a contradiction inside one listing, and it is worth then stating what the run has only ever seen before, which is contradictions between houses. It is worth then stating what it means, which is that the fields are written separately, and it is worth then stating what that also explains, which is the run's finding that a colourway changes one field and leaves the rest alone. It is worth then stating the third thing, which is in the same row. It is worth then stating what the prose says about the sleeve, which is that it is raglan, and it is worth then stating what the row label says, which is only the word sleeve. It is worth then stating what a raglan sleeve is measured from, which is the neck, and what a set-in sleeve is measured from, which is the shoulder, and it is worth then stating what that means: two garments from one house, both labelled sleeve, one raglan and one set-in, and their figures are within half an inch and do not mean the same thing. It is worth then stating that this is the strongest case yet for its ask that the row label name the sleeve type.
Optional upgrades include the fabric weight in grams per square metre, the certifier and licence number for the recycled share, the sleeve type in the row label with the measurement point, the back length measurement point, the shoulder and armhole on a set-in option, the collar width and depth, pocket measurements, the lining and interlining named, the button spacing, the room over a layer stated, a second cleaning method or a stated reason for dry clean only and what happens if the garment gets wet, drying and storage guidance, shrinkage figures for both length and width, a pilling grade tested after a stated number of cycles, colour fastness to washing, rubbing, light and perspiration, further colourways, size set, private label and care labelling.
Pre-production sample approval, in-line inspection during cutting and sewing, and a final AQL inspection before packing, with measurement reports and photos shared before shipment.
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